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Gary2k
02-03-2010, 14:10
Saw this on the news (video at bottom);

http://www.theratbook.com/Articles/Article/a_paedophile_protest_in_dorset

There were some demonstrations held in Dorset where everyone walks around chanting "paedos out...paedos out"....

I can see their hearts are in the right place, but where are the paedos meant to go? have they really thought this one through?
Daniel Frost
02-03-2010, 14:16
And what about forgiveness and actually genuinely helping people with problems? And what about seeing that being a sex offender doesn't necessarily mean you've done anything more than urinate in public...
Mockler
02-03-2010, 14:59
At least the paedophiles now know that they're disliked, whereas before they thought they were the townsfolks favourite people. :confused:
AKU//
02-03-2010, 15:19
I think that pedophiles have now been persecuted to the point that there is an increasing risk of a backlash in their favour.

The enforcement of the anti-sodomy laws in the UK almost ceased in the Inter-War years, when in the 1950s they were enforced with a vengeance people turned against them. Could the same happen with pedophiles?

Obviously there is a massive difference morally between homosexuality and pedophilia but in some ways the comparison between homosexuality 60 years ago and pedophilia today works. Worrying.
Gotlieb Alexander
02-03-2010, 22:00
Obviously there is a massive difference morally between homosexuality and pedophilia

What is this?

And before everyone yells homophobe! at me, I could rephrase that as "what is the difference morally between heterosexuality, homosexuality and pedophilia"
Mockler
02-03-2010, 22:15
What is this?

And before everyone yells homophobe! at me, I could rephrase that as "what is the difference morally between heterosexuality, homosexuality and pedophilia"

Depends how old the minor is and whether they rape them or not.
AKU//
02-04-2010, 14:22
"what is the difference morally between heterosexuality, homosexuality and pedophilia"

Informed consent?
Gotlieb Alexander
02-04-2010, 23:24
Informed consent?

Who says paedophilia can't have informed consent?

Who says a paedophile even performs sexual acts that require consent? If a painting of child porn which was never based on a real child is distributed this is illegal, this has nothing to do with consent.
AKU//
02-05-2010, 18:50
I'm not entirely sure that it is illegal, anyway I highly doubt that anyone would try and display a picture of an adult raping a child publicly, so the issue is academic. I certainly don't know of any case. As far as I know manga porn isn't illegal, as the average age of the younger partner in the ones I've seen looks about 14-16 then if it featured human actors it would be illegal, so as I've said I'm not sure if that point stands.

If a pedophilic relationship is based upon informed consent then there wouldn't be a complaint, therefore no one else would have to get involved.
FluffyZoë
02-05-2010, 20:11
If a pedophilic relationship is based upon informed consent then there wouldn't be a complaint, therefore no one else would have to get involved.

But what if the minor is a baby, or someone who can't find back or doesn't know/understand what's happening to them?

It's not about age, it's about sexual predators preying on the vulnerable - it happens to the very old and people in comas too.
Paul
02-05-2010, 20:45
I'm not entirely sure that it is illegal, anyway I highly doubt that anyone would try and display a picture of an adult raping a child publicly, so the issue is academic. I certainly don't know of any case.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/gallery-raided-as-bill-henson-child-porn-art-removed/story-e6frf0kr-1111116421837
As far as I know manga porn isn't illegal, as the average age of the younger partner in the ones I've seen looks about 14-16 then if it featured human actors it would be illegal, so as I've said I'm not sure if that point stands.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/28/government_outlaws_pictures/
Paul
02-05-2010, 20:49
But what if the minor is a baby, or someone who can't find back or doesn't know/understand what's happening to them?

It's not about age, it's about sexual predators preying on the vulnerable - it happens to the very old and people in comas too.

Hence informed consent.
AKU//
02-05-2010, 20:56
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/gallery-raided-as-bill-henson-child-porn-art-removed/story-e6frf0kr-1111116421837


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/28/government_outlaws_pictures/

I was aware of the Australian case. Probably should have said within the UK's jurisdiction. I wasn't aware that "manga porn" come under the definition of 'extreme pornography', I'm opposed to the law against extreme pornography.
Paul
02-05-2010, 21:31
I was aware of the Australian case. Probably should have said within the UK's jurisdiction. I wasn't aware that "manga porn" come under the definition of 'extreme pornography', I'm opposed to the law against extreme pornography.

I think it was "drawings and computer-generated images of child abuse" rather than "extreme pornography" ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/may/31/justice.ukcrime