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Saw this thread created by Andy Gray, and I have one question: at what date are candidates allowed to start canvassing, setting up campaign websites and the like? I understood it was only shortly before the elections themselves?
By the by, I see efforts are being made to interview Nick Clegg, who is some sort of politician. He's in his mid thirties, so if it isn't going to be conducted in a chat room, does that mean it'll take place here? The Site (http://vbulletin.thesite.org/forumdisplay.php?f=87) has already had Sarah Teather and Dennis MacShane on their politics forum, but they don't have an age restriction.
But you're right, xvictoriax. Why didn't anyone think of this before..? ;)
P.S. is Mossad for real? 'The people' get to decide how the country is ran?
P.S. is Mossad for real? 'The people' get to decide how the country is ran?
Well, I dont think anyone would claim that that isnt at least partially true.
Well, I dont think anyone would claim that that isnt at least partially true.
'Partially' only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, though. The idea that getting to vote for the least worst of a bad bunch every four years equals control is risible. The point Mossad makes about calling members of parliament (and local authorities) to account for their actions makes more sense, but in reality it doesn't happen, and MPs are happy for that to remain the case.
The most jarring thing about Mossad's remarks was the implication that if our system was screwed up, that was down to 'the people'. Our politicians are quite capable of ignoring the views of the electorate and doing what they think is fit, otherwise we'd have brought back hanging years ago, and certainly wouldn't be in Afghanistan now. Politicians ignored nearly 2 million people marching in London five years ago, but paid heed to a 'dodgy dossier' (while they wallowed in their expenses trough).
If politicians really gave a hoot about what the public thought, apart from during an election campaign when they have to simulate interest to garner votes, interviewers on programmes like Radio 4's 'Today' wouldn't have to grill them so mercilessly for honest answers. It will be interesting to see what kind of account Nick Clegg gives of himself. Is it too much to hope that this could be the start of a youth-led revival of interest in this country's political future?
Saw this thread created by Andy Gray, and I have one question: at what date are candidates allowed to start canvassing, setting up campaign websites and the like? I understood it was only shortly before the elections themselves?
I think you can start your campaign whenever it suits you, although best not to start too late!
I plan on starting my campaign 'officially' in January, a month before voting begins and 2 months before it finishes. Although, I might start putting up posters in December.
xvictoriax
11-18-2009, 21:58
Facebook is a wonderful thing for the campaign :)
Ive started my re-election campaign :)
I think you can start your campaign whenever it suits you, although best not to start too late!
I plan on starting my campaign 'officially' in January, a month before voting begins and 2 months before it finishes. Although, I might start putting up posters in December.
I heard/read somewhere that campaigning was restricted to just before the elections in January, but to be honest, I don't imagine that such a rule would be enforced, anyway. My daughter wants to start her own site, but I suspect I'll be dragooned into doing it. Here's a tip, webs.com is a great website-building site. I made the pages below in about a week:
http://bartred.webs.com/
shamanmisba
11-24-2009, 17:52
Yes, once you have handed in your application and statement (well that is what is happening in Sunderland) then you are eligible to campaign but until you've done that, so you can't campaign before even applying! Normally, people start campaigning after attending a briefing meeting with the other nominees in our city, during that briefing you are told more of the position the do's and don't do's etc. and then candidates go off and campaign, i guess Andy just decided to take the initiative and do some campaigning before hand. I can't blame him though, he is competing against me :P lol
Andy just decided to take the initiative and do some campaigning before hand. I can't blame him though, he is competing against me :P lol
I'll have to poster up every secondary school and college now! I picture this not being an easy campaign! :p
Sir Nigel
11-24-2009, 18:40
I won my election with a landslide victory against the 16 other candidates ( tiny little clue to who i am/was there )
I won't give you any hints to my election strategy, then a few people will know who i am/was haha *-)
but all i will say, is THINK VERY CAREFULLY ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO.
and also, don't expect a single word you say to be listened to, unless your opinion agrees exactly with those people running it. you're just puppets im afraid.
wlitchfield
11-24-2009, 21:06
I've uh. Made a website but that's not just for the Campaign its been up for a while now just for local things going on that I was involved in.
I did set up a facebook page however. 85 followers currently and my Facebook Ads haven't even been put up yet. ;)
I haven't seen anyone else running for Norfolk and I'm told there aren't usually many, so maybe its all for no reason.
I've uh. Made a website but that's not just for the Campaign its been up for a while now just for local things going on that I was involved in.
I did set up a facebook page however. 85 followers currently and my Facebook Ads haven't even been put up yet. ;)
I haven't seen anyone else running for Norfolk and I'm told there aren't usually many, so maybe its all for no reason.
It isn't a UKYP at the moment either. You're wanting to be elected to an English Youth Parliament not to a United Kingdom Youth Parliament
Sir Nigel
11-24-2009, 21:27
It isn't a UKYP at the moment either. You're wanting to be elected to an English Youth Parliament not to a United Kingdom Youth Parliament
yeah, we actually have something called an election in ours :P
at least we pretend to be slightly democratic!
yeah, we actually have something called an election in ours :P
at least we pretend to be slightly democratic!
Absolutely.
My point it, a parliament is democratically elected and the whole UKYP isn't. It isn't a UKYP until it is.
but all i will say, is THINK VERY CAREFULLY ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO.
and also, don't expect a single word you say to be listened to, unless your opinion agrees exactly with those people running it. you're just puppets im afraid.
That's how it is in areas where youth participation is seen as a box to be ticked. I can honestly say that I never intended for my daughter to run, just made sure she knew about the Youth Parliament elections so she could see if her school was taking an interest. It's surprised me how enthusiastic she is about the whole thing, and although I'm pretty sure she doesn't know what she's letting herself in for, I'll support her. She's made her site (and I pretty much kept all my helpful suggestions to myself), and although it needs a lot more work, such as photos and images, she needs feedback on the guestbook page about what an MYP should do for the people he/she represents. I'm all about the interweb, of course, but I think being accessible to the 'electorate' is what makes a good MYP (or MP) in this modern age.
http://kandidatekira.webs.com/
I've uh. Made a website but that's not just for the Campaign its been up for a while now just for local things going on that I was involved in.
Nice website and blog. I wonder if Jimdo is as easy to use as Webs? I was going to post a comment on the last blog entry, but Kira was signed on to Google, and switching is always a pain. Don't think I'm being pedantic (I know someone who got really irate about my pointing out a typo when I was really just testing the comment function, and if someone did the same to me, I'd just be happy that someone was talking an interest), but you missed out the word 'see', I think, so if you can edit an entry...
wlitchfield
11-24-2009, 22:38
Hi There
I can't see that error, could you copy me the line of text.
Thanks and thanks very much for complimenting my site. Jimdo is easier to use in my opinion, and I believe the end result looks better.
IIRC, it's near the end of the entry, and should read 'could see me made or broken'. It's the sort of thing I do all the time, but I can blame incipient dementia... ;)
I just checked, and my recollection is correct. Also, you scored no commas out of a possible six. Now I am being pedantic... :D
Actually, on reflection, I think the 'me' should have been 'be'. At least I hit the tree...
wlitchfield
11-24-2009, 23:41
Haha yes you're right and I always miss out commas. But now I have transferred to Google Chrome and it's going to point out those errors too me. ;)
I'll make those changes first thing this evening when I get back from school & the radio station.
pretzels
11-25-2009, 14:29
It's not the UKYP's fault that the Scottish Youth Parliament, Northern Ireland Youth Forum and Welsh Youth Assembly don't elect their MYPs, so drop it. It would be ridiculous for them to duplicate those partner organisations' operations by holding elections for MYPs in the nations.
Hmmm. It might not be the UKYP's fault that there are inconsistencies between the 'regions', but it is the UKYP's fault, as it were, that it's name, the United Kingdom Youth Parliament, obscures these inconsistencies. If there were an English Assembly, I guess, at least there would be a visible distinction.
By the by, after much argument, and the involvement of one Gloucestershire Council cabinet member, UKYPGlos' website is finally permitting registration as well as comments ('Yay, brains!!'). With suitable motivation, it only took a few hours. The kicker was that when asked about Kira's website, they said that any views received must (sic) come through the official site, so I argued that until the site was fixed, candidates had no other option. I guess this means we'll be deleting the guestbook page, or at least directing everyone to UKYPGlos.
http://www.ukypglos.co.uk/news
wlitchfield
11-25-2009, 21:41
Just a little bit of a plug here, mainly for Joker. I have just finished a lot of work on my brand new site. It's taken a while but I believe its finally ready to show off. (In Beta Testing Of course)
http://williamlitchfield.webnode.com/
Tell me what you think.
As I said in the guestbook, not bad. It's a bit white at the moment, though. I like a bit of colour in the background, the light blue of this site, for example. Does Webnode give you a choice of template colours?
wlitchfield
11-27-2009, 09:27
Im trying to work out how to change the background colour and I can't on this template. The only way to do it is, I think, going into the CSS code and mucking around which seems to me rather hazardous seeing as I know nothing about that sort of thing.
xvictoriax
12-04-2009, 09:12
Your very enthusiastic Will ...I'm sure your opponents will come up with something though :)
Butting in on a thread that I can't comment on directly, but
What kind of things will I have to say in the speech? Will I be describing myself or what I believe in? Why I believe I will be a good candidate or my policies after selection? How long should it be?
If you got the information pack my daughter did, the speech should almost write itself. It's in four parts, basically questions, and you have to keep it down to a hundred words, so 25 for each part. Some of the questions are hard to get your head around, from my recollection. They suffer from the jargon council workers are trained to use.
You can get some information about editing an address on UKYPGlos' Elections page:
http://www.ukypglos.co.uk/focus/elections-10
James2200
12-11-2009, 17:04
Be yourself!
Austin Sheridan
12-15-2009, 19:54
I won my election with a landslide victory against the 16 other candidates ( tiny little clue to who i am/was there )
I won't give you any hints to my election strategy, then a few people will know who i am/was haha *-)
but all i will say, is THINK VERY CAREFULLY ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO.
and also, don't expect a single word you say to be listened to, unless your opinion agrees exactly with those people running it. you're just puppets im afraid.
What was your percentage and majority (in percentage too please)
xvictoriax
12-15-2009, 22:07
With that amount where I am we are using a transferable vote system...that must have been stiff competition :)
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