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ukyp
03-26-2008, 14:55
A report on university tuition fees by the UK Youth Parliament says that the Government is failing millions of young students from across the UK by making university too expensive to attend.

The report, launched at the Houses of Parliament today, highlights that over 80% of young people between the age of 15 to 18 believe the Government is not doing enough to make university financially accessible for young people and that one in three of those students who want to go to university said that they will not be able to afford to go.

The report entitled “Uni fees – are they fair? (http://www.ukyouthparliament.org.uk/campaigns/UKYP_Tuition_Fees_Report.pdf)” summarises the views of 5850 respondents who completed a consultation questionnaire.

James Greenhalgh, the member of UK Youth Parliament for East Staffordshire who has planned the launch event at the Houses of Parliament commented:

“I feel that access to higher education is a right of all British people, and I believe the current system is failing millions of young people from across the whole of the UK.

“If no fees have to be paid at Scottish Universities, then why can’t it be done over the border in England? It is unequal, unfair and an outrageous imbalance within the system, and I urge the Government and the MPs from all political parties to take on board these results, and not only listen to what we are saying as young people, but also act upon them and do the morally right thing: Make university free for all young people across the WHOLE of the UK.”

Findings within the report also reveal that over three quarters of those surveyed felt that students should not have to pay tuition fees and 97% felt that university should be made cheaper.

Michael Fabricant, Conservative MP for Lichfield commented:

“Many students are either deterred from going to university or suffer from financial hardship because of the student loan scheme. This is an issue which needs to be addressed and I hope the Government will not continue to maintain that all is well with the system.”

Nick Clegg, leader of the Liberal Democrats commented on the report:

“Widening participation in Higher Education is so important in shaping Britain’s future. We must tackle the poverty of aspiration that means too many young people don’t even consider university as a realistic option in the first place.

“I want to build a fair and equal society in which everyone has the opportunity to fulfil their potential, instead of having their life shaped by the accident of their birth. Access to university should always be dependent on academic ability and never on personal background.”


Lynne Jones, Labour MP for Selly Oak Commented:

"When Labour came into government in 1997 we said we wanted to achieve 50% of young people in higher education by 2010. These participation rates would entail a significant increase in the number of entrants from ‘non-traditional’ or working-class backgrounds. However, the latest figures show that the Government’s current funding model for Higher Education is not achieving the aim of expanding the base of young people from poorer backgrounds."

The consultation will be delivered to the Prime Minister Gordon Brown at Number Ten later on today (Wednesday) and there are also further plans to hold a demonstration In London in the Summer, the handing in a petition to Downing Street and a massive national event in Birmingham.

Click here to download the "Uni fees – are they fair?" report (http://www.ukyouthparliament.org.uk/campaigns/UKYP_Tuition_Fees_Report.pdf).

Samantha Stainforth
04-20-2008, 18:41
This doesn't surprise me one bit.
Lots of people voted it to be one of UKYPs campaigns

If University Fees were abolished, further education would be more accessible and people would have more qualifications. The better qualifications, the better jobs people can have. The economy would benefit from this greatly

Sam
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MYP Candidate for East Riding of Yorkshire

Gotlieb Alexander
04-20-2008, 18:55
The thing that I don't get about the whole fees system is that as you don't pay fees until you graduate the people who lose out are not going to be the people who were poor beforehand it's the people who are going to be poor afterwards, and seeing as if you are too poor you won't pay at all then how much can anyone really lose?

Ultimately university has to be paid for and if the state pay then everyone pays according to their wealth and since under the current system graduates still pay according to their wealth I don't see how the system will be any different unless people accept my advice and give up this silly quest to give everyone a degree.

In the civil service for example you used to be able to enter its recruiting scheme at different levels whether you had CSEs, O-levels, GCSEs A levels degrees or whatever and now pretty much everyone needs a degree. All we have done is changed the educational heirachy by training people in areas they don't need.

Marcus89
08-21-2008, 13:02
My University fee is £3,145, plus an extra £900 a year.

My total expense for accomidation, minus food costs etc, but includes bills is £3,328.40

that comes to a total of;

£7373.40 per year; I'm going to recieve a total of almost £10,000 per year in funds. leaving me with around £3,300 or £277.75 per month.

Mix that with a job earning me aroud £300-£400 a month, is gonna give me around £500-£600 a month to live on. Not that bad really.

Gotlieb Alexander
08-21-2008, 13:59
What is the extra £900 for may I ask?

Gotlieb Alexander
08-21-2008, 14:01
The main obsurdity in the system is that the richer kids actualy get MORE loan than the poorer kids, with the poor making up for this with a large grant. The question I ask is: does the government assume that if you are poor now you will therefore be poor upon graduation and so be unable to repay a loan? It seems they do

Steven_Jones_-_Sheffield
08-21-2008, 14:05
It's a two-sided argument, yes, it would involve taxes going up but then the economy improving after although, taxes cannot be raised substantually enough in order to provide for the poorer students and still provide a good standard of education.

I'm not trying to stop the poorer community from reaching higher education (I am what is considered "poor") I just don't want the bar to slip.

Plus, it isn't really fair on the tax payer's who had to pay for their own university education and would have to take the tax-based strain.

Gotlieb Alexander
08-21-2008, 14:16
I say put the loan limits up, let them borrow more. That way everyone can afford to go no matter who you are, including those who are caught up in the upper brackets despite being poor, cause they suffer to hell

Samantha Stainforth
08-21-2008, 16:45
This doesn't surprise me one bit.
Lots of people voted it to be one of UKYPs campaigns

If University Fees were abolished, further education would be more accessible and people would have more qualifications. The better qualifications, the better jobs people can have. The economy would benefit from this greatly

Sam
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MYP Candidate for East Riding of Yorkshire

Sorry to quote myself. But my views have changed.
Fees shouldnt be abolished, as uni needs to be beneficial, as what sort of education would you get if it was all free.
Im plannning to go to uni, and there are lots of grants and bursaries to help me out. Plus theres the student loan, which can be paid back easily. I want to do a course where I spend a year in London. I am worrying about finances for that.

Gotlieb Alexander
08-21-2008, 16:55
I'd personaly do away with all grants and bursaries, sorry Samantha

Samantha Stainforth
08-21-2008, 17:22
I'd personaly do away with all grants and bursaries, sorry Samantha

It's ok. You can have your own views, i wont criticise your opinion. But may I enquire to why you feel this way?

Gotlieb Alexander
08-21-2008, 17:27
It's ok. You can have your own views, i wont criticise your opinion. But may I enquire to why you feel this way?

Because higher education should be paid for by those who can afford it, and i judge ability to pay by your own earnings, not those of your parents.

Plus, people should bare the financial responsibilities that come with their decisions

Marcus89
08-21-2008, 17:29
Because higher education should be paid for by those who can afford it, and i judge ability to pay by your own earnings, not those of your parents.

Plus, people should bare the financial responsibilities that come with their decisions

Alright, so those with the ability should not be allowed into Higher Education due to the fact that they cannot afford it?

Gotlieb Alexander
08-21-2008, 17:30
Alright, so those with the ability should not be allowed into Higher Education due to the fact that they cannot afford it?

Everyone should be able to afford it because the government give out student loans, which you pay back if you can afford to

Marcus89
08-21-2008, 17:31
Everyone should be able to afford it because the government give out student loans, which you pay back if you can afford to

Oh sorry, misread your arguement.

Conzales
08-21-2008, 18:42
Being a student is expensive! Im just about to take on thousands in debt over the next 4 years.

Gotlieb Alexander
08-21-2008, 18:47
Being a student is expensive! Im just about to take on thousands in debt over the next 4 years.

Naturaly it will be, regardless of fees there's the need to support yourself for three, four or more years without working. And then there's postgraduate study which is a different kettle of fish altogether, I've glanced at some of the Masters courses at the LSE and the fees go up to about £20,000! It's quite scary really

Conzales
08-21-2008, 18:52
Naturaly it will be, regardless of fees there's the need to support yourself for three, four or more years without working. And then there's postgraduate study which is a different kettle of fish altogether, I've glanced at some of the Masters courses at the LSE and the fees go up to about £20,000! It's quite scary really

I have actually had to go out and get a job.

EmmaGallen
08-21-2008, 23:28
And to think Liam thought I was odd for agreeing to go where my parents want becuase they will foot the bill.

Seriously there's a whole lto less debt for me...