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I'm rather ashamed to say I don't yet have a political label.:eek: :o
Yet I want to know what I am,obviously based upon what I believe in.
So I was wondering,how do I go about deciding/discovering?
...:D
dont. just vote Labour. they are the best Party. do it!!!
also watch BBC2 now. Darwin.
dont. just vote Labour. they are the best Party. do it!!!
also watch BBC2 now. Darwin.
Ok.
I am now officially Labour.;)
Looking at it on Iplayer now.
orcprocess
03-17-2009, 18:29
Ok.
I am now officially Labour.;)
Looking at it on Iplayer now.
NO be Conservative!!!
orcprocess
03-17-2009, 18:37
Seriously though....
What are you one of these socialist types?
Red-Fred
03-17-2009, 18:45
I have something you, and possibly others, will enjoy
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Answer a few of their questions and it places you on a well thought out graph where you can easily compare yourself with other historical figures.
orcprocess
03-17-2009, 18:50
Economic Left/Right: 6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.26
Red-Fred
03-17-2009, 19:00
Economic Left/Right: -8.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.74
Michael Prosser
03-17-2009, 19:05
Last time I took it (about a month ago maybe) I was about the same place as red fred, will do it again at some time.
Hamsterwaffle
03-17-2009, 19:16
I'm rather ashamed to say I don't yet have a political label.:eek: :o
Avoid having one at all costs. I have yet to find one that doesn't overgeneralise.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=2.50&soc=-3.69
Economic Left/Right: 2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69
Ok,how about:
How did you decide what your political label was?
orcprocess
03-17-2009, 19:24
liberal democrats?
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=2.50&soc=-3.69
Economic Left/Right: 2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69
Ok,how about:
How did you decide what your political label was?
the political compass is seriously flawed.
just listen to the Parties... find out their policies... find out their policies in the past.
orcprocess
03-17-2009, 19:28
just listen to the Parties... find out their policies... find out their policies in the past.
Why would their past policies have anything to do with it?
liberal democrats?
You are?
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Michael Prosser
03-17-2009, 19:28
I always knew I was one of us filthy left wing scumbags :D I just wasn't sure how far or in which direction until I found the political compass 2 or 3 years ago. Since then me and Dan F have both been far more overt, I'd say it was around the same time our political fascination really kicked off, his a tiny bit earlier than mine. The first time we really demonstrated it was probably one of the first bits of work we had to do last year in history which was to define 25 points for your own political party (after Hitler's 25) and we designed the united people's party. Probably not quite accurate to our views now but enough to make us stand out as socialists in our class :D
orcprocess
03-17-2009, 19:31
You are?
.
Nom, but your position on the political compass suggest that they may be the party for you. But go and look them up and their policies.
Michael Prosser
03-17-2009, 19:31
You are?
Actually you are :p, that put's you about a cm from where the Lib Dems are now :)
Why would their past policies have anything to do with it?
not much but they may give some indication to the way the Party thinks now.
Red-Fred
03-17-2009, 20:50
Mockler, would I be right in saying you only dislike the PC because it claims Labour are right wing?
it is obviously massively flawed.
1. it has American issues on it.
2. it doesnt ask enough questions.
Samantha Stainforth
03-18-2009, 09:24
dont. just vote Labour. they are the best Party. do it!!!
also watch BBC2 now. Darwin.
That's not the way to help someone decide their political affiliation.
Sam
Michael Prosser
03-18-2009, 15:02
it is obviously massively flawed.
1. it has American issues on it.
2. it doesnt ask enough questions.
It's actually not that flawed, it could just do with at least one more axis, possibly 2 if we weren't in this universe or could display it all as one set of data. It should have an environmental one and probably some other stuff about policy specifically.
Dirk/DSF
03-18-2009, 16:39
it is obviously massively flawed.
1. it has American issues on it.
2. it doesnt ask enough questions.
Which ones were the american issues?
It seemed to work out ok for me :)
Red-Fred
03-18-2009, 17:16
Mockler, have a look at the FAQ on the site. It might give you some useful info.
Daniel Frost
03-18-2009, 17:32
Economic Left/Right: -8.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33
I moved further left :p
it is obviously massively flawed.
1. it has American issues on it.
2. it doesnt ask enough questions.
Political Compass is UK based....
However, yeah, many of those tests are USA centric. Not a huge problem though I don't think.
Be labour, there pretty good.
Red-Fred
03-18-2009, 19:02
Be labour, there pretty good.
If you enjoy sleaze, broken promises and incompetence. ;):rolleyes:
Michael Prosser
03-18-2009, 19:14
Economic Left/Right: -9.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41
I appear to have moved quite a way :p
I am really very liberal but I move higher up because I'm not an anarchist, this would be even better (and it is awesome) with a third axis.
joanne.b.
03-18-2009, 20:52
Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.75&soc=-6.41
ciara_squires
03-19-2009, 08:26
Economic Left/Right: -7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77
it's gone more left, i used to be right next to Ghandi..
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee75/ciara_330_2007/pcgraphpng2.png
Dirk/DSF
03-19-2009, 08:53
Economic Left/Right: -9.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41
I appear to have moved quite a way :p
I am really very liberal but I move higher up because I'm not an anarchist, this would be even better (and it is awesome) with a third axis.
Oh, bloody Nora! You're further left than me!
Marcus89
03-19-2009, 09:01
Hmm, apparently I have slipped back to the left...
Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.28
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-4.00&soc=-1.28
kaity221
03-19-2009, 10:16
Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.56
havent moved much since last time
If you enjoy sleaze, broken promises and incompetence. ;):rolleyes:
compentent enough to get elected.
Hamsterwaffle
03-19-2009, 15:59
compentent enough to get elected.
Being able to get elected and being good at running the country are two completely different things.
Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-7.75&soc=-6.05
lul
Being able to get elected and being good at running the country are two completely different things.
I didnt say they werent. also they are good at running the country. its obvious.
Michael Prosser
03-19-2009, 16:11
compentent enough to get elected.
So was Thatcher and I presume you hate her as much as we do with a slight labour tinge on that belief...
Michael Prosser
03-19-2009, 16:13
I didnt say they werent. also they are good at running the country. its obvious.
Meh, only compared to what came before and being greater than a negative number proves nothing, you could still very easily be negative, zero or very lightly positive. Not many people really remember what it was like with other parties who weren't nigh on identical. We're too used to a two party race.
Red-Fred
03-19-2009, 16:15
Well...I suppose civil war hasn't broken out, but seriously, what have Labour really achieved?
Hamsterwaffle
03-19-2009, 16:20
Lets not turn this into a labour vs tory debate, otherwise it will get immature and both sides will look stupid.
Michael Prosser
03-19-2009, 16:27
Lets not turn this into a labour vs tory debate, otherwise it will get immature and both sides will look stupid.
To be fair I think I was simply looking for an opportunity to disagree with him but yeah you're right, let's just keep this as it was meant to be.
I have something you, and possibly others, will enjoy
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Answer a few of their questions and it places you on a well thought out graph where you can easily compare yourself with other historical figures.
Arghh, again with the compass! Why does everyone go back to that?
I've said a hundred times that a) its inaccurate and b) even if that was accurate to a startling degree, people hould make their own political decisions and not let a computer algorithm tell them what they believe. How lazy is society that we need the internet to give us our beliefs (to 2 d.p. mind you)? In fact, why don't we just let a computer vote for us?
Daniel Frost
03-19-2009, 18:07
I agree with you that you should realise your own politics, however I think it is interesting to watch how my views change :p
As far as computers voting for us is concerned, it is actually an interesting an idea which could feasibly be better than the current system.
Michael Prosser
03-19-2009, 18:15
Indeed, having a very accurate computer search your mind and then cast your vote for the party whos average point of view agrees with yours would probably be quite good, would cut out party PR stunts to a certain extent. It would also screw over parties which are nigh on identical which would be good.
joanne.b.
03-19-2009, 20:20
As a rough guideline, I suppose it's okay but I doubt anyone would make serious political judgements on it.
However, there are a load of double negatives which confuse, not enough options of answer and a ton of leading questions. I half expected 'you think it's right to kill innocent babies?' to come up...
Michael Prosser
03-20-2009, 16:12
Indeed, noone would ever make a decision based on it though because for someone to have completed the test seriously they must have their views fairly solidly held, the compass is just a nice vague guide as to who you might agree with.
Dirk/DSF
03-21-2009, 12:38
I'm taking the test again. I think it might be an idea. I admit, i didn't understand a few things last time. But someone explained it to me.
Dirk/DSF
03-21-2009, 12:46
Oh, i was hoping i was even further left but it was just the same...
Last time I did it...
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2519/pcgraphpnge.png (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pcgraphpnge.png)
soph41190
03-21-2009, 20:01
I took it again. About .5% further right.
I am in the green box, half way down, one square away from centre.
I got same as most people here, bottom left box.
I think ideally the questions should be based on the policies of the 3 main parties.
What are your views on immigration:
- The country is crowded and in dange of being overpopulated. Immigration should be halted.
- Borders are important, and potential immigrants need to pass all tests and policies.
- All people should have the chance of a better way of life.
Then that would base it on the 3 main parties views...
Red-Fred
03-21-2009, 21:19
But then it would only be applicable to a) the UK and b) people who agree with the main parties.
But then it would only be applicable to a) the UK and b) people who agree with the main parties.
I suppose so about a, but I think most people taking the test would only really have only heard about the main 3.
Red-Fred
03-21-2009, 21:59
I suppose so about a, but I think most people taking the test would only really have only heard about the main 3.
I don't think so, most people who are at least vaguely politically aware will know about the existence of parties other than the big 3.
I don't think so, most people who are at least vaguely politically aware will know about the existence of parties other than the big 3.
But it's not those who are at all politically aware who go on that website to find out where they stand ;)
Michael Prosser
03-22-2009, 13:06
We all did :p
Red-Fred
03-22-2009, 14:16
But it's not those who are at all politically aware who go on that website to find out where they stand ;)
Damn outwitted ;)
Just by looking elsewhere on the site though I'm sure that an uninformed randomer would notice the other parties on the graphs.
They even have a graph of classical composers :D
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