When you die..

[*Sarah]

..what do you think will happen to you ?

I'm a muslim, so I believe in judgement and in heaven/hell.

Please don't berate or insult anyone else's beliefs !

x

[EmmaGallen]

I believe in a Lovely Bones type heaven.

[Gotlieb Alexander]

I believe in nothing after death, I can't believe in hell because I don't believe any God could be so evil as to create Hell

[soph41190]

I believe in mystery. Life's one true adventure is death. I believe in that.

[PKDhande]

Materialist.

So, you rot, get eaten by worms and what not; that's pretty much it.

[soph41190]

But you don't know.
Death is where (theoretically) everything is revealed. Wether you rot to nothing, whether in fact you do have a soul that floats up into glittery oblivion is the question of all questions. Whether its answer is depressing and dull, its still one hell of a revalation.

[Ian]

I'm a christian, and i believe in heaven and hell.......

however Andy Parsons put religion in context perfectly:

"Imagine when you die, you have all the God's lined up. You go over to the one you have worshiped all your life, and he pulls out his card.....

And it says:

BLUFF"

It's really confusing. Who's God is the truest? No ones. They are all the one God, just different interpretations. So people should all go to the same heaven

[PKDhande]

But you don't know.
Death is where (theoretically) everything is revealed. Wether you rot to nothing, whether in fact you do have a soul that floats up into glittery oblivion is the question of all questions. Whether its answer is depressing and dull, its still one hell of a revalation.

True, but then I bring the challenge of The Matrix; even after-death you still may never know.

[Gotlieb Alexander]

It's really confusing. Who's God is the truest? No ones. They are all the one God, just different interpretations. So people should all go to the same heaven

I'll accept that for the Abrahamic religions but it's hard to say Hinduism and Christianity are the same

[Matt. P]

I don't really worry about it, here's my reasoning:

When you die there are true concievable possibilities. Either their is some sort of life after death (or rebirth), or nothing.

If any of the former happen, then I will be a pretty happy bunny. If the second option happens well... I'm not really going to be in much of a position to feel disheartened or even mildly aware of the lack of an afterlife. In fact, I won't feel or care much about anything. I certainly won't be able to care that I'm dead.

So, considering both these options aren't going to leave me feel particularly empty and sad (although one is clearly better than the other) what's the worst that could happen?

[cig1705]

So, considering both these options aren't going to leave me feel particularly empty and sad (although one is clearly better than the other) what's the worst that could happen?

A really terrible version of Pascal's Wager where you believe in God just on the off chance there is one, but you believe in the wrong god (the Greeks were right!) and get sent down to the fiery depths of inferno for evermore? :D

I am a Christian so you'll find my views somewhere or other in the Bible or the Catechism (death leads to oblivion followed by resurrection at end of time). It's all good... ;)

[lucia-moonflower]

Heaven or some concept of Heaven as a resting place.... whether it is for eternity or a place to recouperate I do not know. I'm Catholic so I should be saying something about judgement but since I do't believe in Hell or Satan I wouldn't really get very far

[Patriot 167]

Has any christian here, had the same thought as me: that the Garden of Eden may of been heaven?

[orcprocess]

Yeah it might be.

[Reecestatham]

This topic is one of life's many questions.

There are logical theories and then yet there are hopeful theories.

But what would be the ideal way of dying? Slow or quick? Painless or painful? Awake or asleep?

[Gotlieb Alexander]

But what would be the ideal way of dying? Slow or quick? Painless or painful? Awake or asleep?

I wouldn't like to know I was going to die, I'd prefer a surprises

[Reecestatham]

I wouldn't like to know I was going to die, I'd prefer a surprises

But if you died in your sleep, you wouldn't know that you were, dying/dead.

[Gotlieb Alexander]

But if you died in your sleep, you wouldn't know that you were, dying/dead.

Exactly, I'd just stop living, never feel any pain and never know that I wasn't alive

[Reecestatham]

Exactly, I'd just stop living, never feel any pain and never know that I wasn't alive

I'd profer to know that I was dying, but in a painless way, all with miniumul pain.

[Hamsterwaffle]

But what would be the ideal way of dying? Slow or quick? Painless or painful? Awake or asleep?
I would like to die like that lawyer from Jurassic Park.

[Reecestatham]

I would like to die like that lawyer from Jurassic Park.

Which one was the lawyer? Was it the one who was eaten? I can not recall the film even though I used to watch it everyday.

[soph41190]

True, but then I bring the challenge of The Matrix; even after-death you still may never know.

That is one of the options, hence the 'revelation'. I never said that the revelation would mean 'knowing'. Know what you know, if you learn that you don't know anything that still in itself is a kind of revelation!

[Rosie Gibson]

I believe in a Lovely Bones type heaven.

Oh my God, I love that book!
And I believe there isn't actually anything after death, you mind, before it shuts down, (if that is the right way to put it...) makes up a heaven that would be perfect for you, and so that is your last thought, so that's what you believ life after death to be... A bit of a random idea, I know :D

[Pioneer]

Oblivion, there's no reason to believe in anything other than that.

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[LeiGh]

Personally, I believe in a few different things, and it all depends on what I'm thinking at that precise moment.
I believe as humans, if we have unfinished business, or a message to pass on, our soul remains on earth until our business is finished with.
I believe the good people out there, after they have finished on earth, come back as guardian angels to those they know.

I don't really believe in 'heaven and hell', I believe the dead are still with us a lot of the time.

[Pioneer]

In my mind ghosts are imprints of those who are no longer with us and are not in anyway sentient, whether they seem it or not.

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[EmmaGallen]

Oh my God, I love that book!
And I believe there isn't actually anything after death, you mind, before it shuts down, (if that is the right way to put it...) makes up a heaven that would be perfect for you, and so that is your last thought, so that's what you believ life after death to be... A bit of a random idea, I know :D

Kinda like the Lovely Bones but not a heaven. I'd be happy if yours was right.

[Matt. P]

A really terrible version of Pascal's Wager where you believe in God just on the off chance there is one, but you believe in the wrong god (the Greeks were right!) and get sent down to the fiery depths of inferno for evermore?

Why does everybody bring Pascal's wager into that argument, when it is a completely different thing? When did I mention believing in God? I am a confident athiest and one of the reasons why I thing believeing in God is a silly idea has just been honourably listed by you. I just said what ever happens can fall into two choices whatever your religious views are, and neither are bad, so I dodn't worry about it.

[SyedMohsin]

Dear bros/sis,


I pose this question as someone who do believes in hevaen and hell.
If there is nothing after you die, why bother doing anything? Do you ever get depressed as a result of no final purpose of doing anything? I mean it in the sense that if you are going to die then whats the point of actually doing anything in this world. Do you ever feel that way?

These are sincere questions and I do not mean to offend anyone :)

[Marcus89]

Dear bros/sis,


I pose this question as someone who do believes in hevaen and hell.
If there is nothing after you die, why bother doing anything? Do you ever get depressed as a result of no final purpose of doing anything? I mean it in the sense that if you are going to die then whats the point of actually doing anything in this world. Do you ever feel that way?

These are sincere questions and I do not mean to offend anyone :)

Death, followed by heaven, hell or nothingness, is nevertheless an inevitable fact of life. Why waste time trying to avoid that fact? Might aswell make the most out of life while you can.

[Austin Sheridan]

I think that when you die that's it. Nothing else.

[Patriot 167]

I've never been able to accept that death is the end.

[M-lo]

After death will be my funeral and, in the middle of it, I'll pop out the coffin and shout "SURPRISE!" :D

[Matt. P]

After death will be my funeral and, in the middle of it, I'll pop out the coffin and shout "SURPRISE!" :D

The aged vicar with the pacemaker's funeral follows later.

[guy!!]

Materialist.

So, you rot, get eaten by worms and what not; that's pretty much it.

Biologist.

Exactly the same really, but you once again become part of the carbon cycle, nitrogen cycle, and your cremation contributes towards global warming. And its detritivores, not worms. Death sucks.

[Super Joey]

As far as i know your existence ends. I wouldent mind a surprise on the other side though.

[Marcus89]

Death sucks.

Death doesn't suck, it's a challenge. You have X amount of time to do X amount of things or to Achieve X,Y and Z along with any others you wish to do. It's the greatest challenge you can ever face and overcome.

[Leon]

I'm a christian, and i believe in heaven and hell.......

however Andy Parsons put religion in context perfectly:

"Imagine when you die, you have all the God's lined up. You go over to the one you have worshiped all your life, and he pulls out his card.....

And it says:

BLUFF"

It's really confusing. Who's God is the truest? No ones. They are all the one God, just different interpretations. So people should all go to the same heaven

I think it can be eschatologically disaterous to have the wrong interpretation of God. Christian thinking says that there is only one way to God and that is through His Son Jesus

I don't really worry about it, here's my reasoning:

When you die there are true concievable possibilities. Either their is some sort of life after death (or rebirth), or nothing.

If any of the former happen, then I will be a pretty happy bunny. If the second option happens well... I'm not really going to be in much of a position to feel disheartened or even mildly aware of the lack of an afterlife. In fact, I won't feel or care much about anything. I certainly won't be able to care that I'm dead.

So, considering both these options aren't going to leave me feel particularly empty and sad (although one is clearly better than the other) what's the worst that could happen?

If there is no heaven or hell and you live in obedience to God, you have lost nothing, in fact you ahve rather gained something because the principles of Christianity are conducive success: loving others, working hard etc. If there is a Heaven and Hell then you will receive your reward. If however we live doing whatever we want or what "feels right" and there is a heaven and hell we will eternally suffer for it. Then if there is no heaven and hell and we live life in this way then we have neither lost or gained anything.

Has any christian here, had the same thought as me: that the Garden of Eden may of been heaven?

Dunno mate.. In the Bible when the garden is described it talks about the river Euphrates which is a river on Earth (in the middle-east...i think)

Death doesn't suck, it's a challenge. You have X amount of time to do X amount of things or to Achieve X,Y and Z along with any others you wish to do. It's the greatest challenge you can ever face and overcome.

How does anyone overcome death without the existence of an afterlife? Surely, if there is not an afterlife then we are all defeated by death? Even if one acheives all they want and stops wanting more (which will not happen, everyone is always asking for something) it does not mean that they want to die. Even if very accomplished person was seriously ill they would go to the doctors in an attempt to avoid death. The doctor may be able to treat them and thus prolong their life but ultimatley they are fighting a losing battle - the person will eventually die. The only way that ones defeats death is by living eternally and this is not possible unless there is a God. Death's aim is not to stop you from acheiving what you want, death's aim is to kill you. So it defeats people because it acheives its aim of killing people regardless of how much they have acheive. Even if I gain the whole world and I die, I will have been defeated by death because it perserved in our conflicting aims. I wanted to live, death wanted me to die - it won. Even if I wanted to die it would still not be a victory because I would only be conforming to what death wanted.

[Marcus89]

How does anyone overcome death without the existence of an afterlife? Surely, if there is not an afterlife then we are all defeated by death? Even if one acheives all they want and stops wanting more (which will not happen, everyone is always asking for something) it does not mean that they want to die. Even if very accomplished person was seriously ill they would go to the doctors in an attempt to avoid death. The doctor may be able to treat them and thus prolong their life but ultimatley they are fighting a losing battle - the person will eventually die. The only way that ones defeats death is by living eternally and this is not possible unless there is a God. Death's aim is not to stop you from acheiving what you want, death's aim is to kill you. So it defeats people because it acheives its aim of killing people regardless of how much they have acheive. Even if I gain the whole world and I die, I will have been defeated by death because it perserved in our conflicting aims. I wanted to live, death wanted me to die - it won. Even if I wanted to die it would still not be a victory because I would only be conforming to what death wanted.

That's the point though, death is an enivitability, it cannot be avoided and cannot be escaped, and while it is always a heartbreak to loose thoose who are close to you, I still see it as a challenge. You cannot challenge death itself, as you said you will always loose, but you can challenge the time you are given on this earth (by either an all powerful being or the course of nature depending on which you choose to believe). With the chance, you can go into any field or work/career and acheive the things or changes you want, spend your life with that special someone, found a family and live in peace/harmony. On the day that death takes you to the next level, whether it be an afterlife or nothingness, you can, before you die, smile at all you have achieved. Living for eternity sounds good, but in reality I don't think I'd want to live forever, seeing everyone in your life pass you by, and probably being doomed to a lonely existance. Life is sacared, and should be preversed as much as possible, but if life is to be taken away, then it should be remembered for the good things that life has achieved.

[Dirk/DSF]

Logic dictates that this whole spiritual world on the other side of the great customs barrier that is death likely doesn't exist. I also would like to think of death as more glorious than kicking the bucket and being left as a rotting corpse in the ground - not a very dignified way to go. But lets look at it another way. When you die, you essentially become a fertiliser for the ground. At the same time, you become - for the first time - one of the lower rungs in the food chain. Part of you will feed microbes, part of you will stimulate the growing of plants, etc. You will become part of the nitrogen cycle. Your bodily waters evaporate into the air. And so on. That's the pantheistic argument. You become one with the Earth. There is a part of you in everything your body helped to feed.

That's not really religious or spiritual, it's just another way of looking at it.

[malia]

im a muslim and i belive in judgment ,heaven and hell .
but in myself i belive that when you die its just you sleeping in piece without you knowing ...:)

[SyedMohsin]

When YOU die.... hmmmm

What is you???

Are you your body?

When a person dies what does he loose? This is something to seriously think about. When a person dies what is not there that was there before? His whole body is there, all the organs the blood the veins arteries brain everything is there yet a person dies....what is mising which makes this body dead? Surely something is not present but what?

Now....

If you put two machines side by side. Both have exactly the same parts. One is functional yet the other one is dead. One is full of life and working yet the other one is lifeless. Surely there is something in the first one which the second one lacks. Yet every part is exactly the same. The difference between these two is life. For machines this life is electricity.

In the same way, there is something present in those of us whose body is full of life then those whose body is lifeless. This life, this diferentiation, is what we call soul.

So when you die, your body is dead but not to soul.

So again, what are you, are you the life in you or are you your body. Is YOUR body a possesion just like YOUR car or YOUR house or are you your body. Are you that which is lifeless and left behind or are you that life which brings bodies to life?

Hope that makes sense and furthers the debate.

[Look-Ka-PyPy]

I've been thinking about the idea of the conservation of energy for the scientist's out there. If that was applied to every situation including death, then wouldn't the idea of reincarnation make the most sense? I'm not saying this is my particular belief but it becomes an interesting concept if thought about.

[Look-Ka-PyPy]

When YOU die.... hmmmm

What is you???

Are you your body?

When a person dies what does he loose? This is something to seriously think about. When a person dies what is not there that was there before? His whole body is there, all the organs the blood the veins arteries brain everything is there yet a person dies....what is mising which makes this body dead? Surely something is not present but what?

Now....

If you put two machines side by side. Both have exactly the same parts. One is functional yet the other one is dead. One is full of life and working yet the other one is lifeless. Surely there is something in the first one which the second one lacks. Yet every part is exactly the same. The difference between these two is life. For machines this life is electricity.

In the same way, there is something present in those of us whose body is full of life then those whose body is lifeless. This life, this diferentiation, is what we call soul.

So when you die, your body is dead but not to soul.

So again, what are you, are you the life in you or are you your body. Is YOUR body a possesion just like YOUR car or YOUR house or are you your body. Are you that which is lifeless and left behind or are you that life which brings bodies to life?

Hope that makes sense and furthers the debate.ou'

Yeah, going back to the reincarnation thing. Bodies are constantly changing, so much so that when you're an elderly person you're body is so different to that of our body as a baby that it'd be impossible to link the two together as the same. So it's interesting thought that death could be just another bodily change...minus the body and the body is like said above just a storing cupboard for your sou/personality/whatever you like to call it.

[Mockler]

you rot in the ground... and then 100 years later the council evicts you and someone else takes your place. (thanks Paul)

[Sam Bumby]

I'd like to think there was a heaven

[Look-Ka-PyPy]

That's what the definition of a eschatological belief is I think; what you'd like to be there.

[kimberleyhanrahan]

new to Catholic belief here, im not ready to jusge what happens after. I just really want to have a good life and enjoy. I think death will come whens its my turn

[Michael Prosser]

I've been thinking about the idea of the conservation of energy for the scientist's out there. If that was applied to every situation including death, then wouldn't the idea of reincarnation make the most sense? I'm not saying this is my particular belief but it becomes an interesting concept if thought about.

Not really, the electrostatic energy in the brain fades steadily and automatically after death (and during life, just then it's replenished). The energy from the cells turns into chemical energy in the earth and then feeds other people and most other energy just ceases to occur in the body. The closest you oculd get would be that it increases the amount of energy in the earth overall but remember that you take in energy over your life, as did your mother while pregnant, which create the energy to create you, it's just a balance which tilts back after you die. You could say you are reincarnated as elements of you will last forever in other beings but an individual quanta of energy isn't self aware, it's only when they all come together to make a being that that being has awareness and any minor changes make them a different person. It's reincarnation but not in a way that we could ever really concieve.

[Marcus89]

I'm back-handing the devil and taking over when I die! I know for fact, that once you train to become a lawyer, you go to hell (so I will be seeing a number of you down there with me).

On a serious note, I think death is just one transition - whats on the other side is down to your personal belief. Now some people get scared to think of nothingness on the other side, and maybe thats where the idea of heaven and hell comes from. Hell was created to scare people, though many overlook this documented event.

I'm personally going to accept what happens, make no apologises for my actions and conclude if I suffer for what I consider to be a good life, so be it.

[Lewis Punter MYP]

I Think Your Reborn Into Another Person Body, Incarnated If You Will.

But You Dont Remember Your Past Life.

[morton700]

I think their will be heaven for all of us as long as we are all ask God for forgiveness for all of the sins we have committed on Earth, whatever religion you believe in.

[kaity221]

God, being the christian god?

[soph41190]

I think their will be heaven for all of us as long as we are all ask God for forgiveness for all of the sins we have committed on Earth, whatever religion you believe in.

I don't feel I answer to anyone but myself.

As was so rightly said by a vicar of all people on the Big Questions recently, the most moral and straightforward people in this world affiliate with no religion. The religious concern themselves with 'morals' exclusive to them, and therefore they do not fit in with this world, and they are interpreted differently regardless of the feelings of others because of a superiority complex.

If I go looking for justification from a deity, then I (as a catholic/Jew/thing) could kill ten Homosexuals and be welcomed into Heaven.

BUT, as an everyday person, for me this is morally wrong, and even if a 'GOD' could forgive me I could not. So as long as I am safe in my own conscience, I can burn in hell for all I care.

I don't believe that every prime minister and president is right all the time, why should I believe so with God?

[Rosybud]

What if there wasn't only one God.

Imagine this...

Each and every person has a God within them, and it is only when they die that that God is revealed. As a spirit, ghost or poltergeist.

Or even maybe that each and every person becomes God when they have experienced absolutely everything. For example, if in this life you get run over by a car and die, in your next life you would be the one who ran the person over, if your next you would be the passer by, in the next you would be the police officer, and so on. Until you have experienced all possible sides of an event. Then you can truly know everything.

[LordAnubis]

When I die, I'll end up giving some more tax to the state, and have a nice long old nap.

:p

[joanne.b.]

I've never understood the human's fasicination with life after death. I know it's a biological need to survive which lends us the fear of death so we therefore create a reason NOT to fear death but...I've never really cared.

I'm dead - what happens, happens. :)

That reeeeeally didn't answer the question. Sorry.

[Darryl'Libertarian'Jones]

If you are good, you will be forever under the care of Uranus. If you are bad, Zeus will insure that you enter Tarticus along with the many Titans whom he overthrown, and you will never escape.

[Red-Fred]

"Death is but the next great adventure" ;)

Seriously though, who knows? But I presume it's a rather dull affair of rotting away tbh.

[Hamsterwaffle]

If you are good, you will be forever under the care of Uranus. If you are bad, Zeus will insure that you enter Tarticus along with the many Titans whom he overthrown, and you will never escape.
I thought it was Tartarus? And wasn't Uranus the father of Kronos, who overthrew and castrated his father, before hurling the appendage into the ocean? Furthermore didn't all people in Greek mythology go to Hades, not as punishment but simply what happened when people died?

[Darryl'Libertarian'Jones]

I thought it was Tartarus?

My mistake, you're right.

And wasn't Uranus the father of Kronos, who overthrew and castrated his father, before hurling the appendage into the ocean?

Kronos (Saturn) was the god of plains, nature and agriculture. He was the youngest of the first generation of Titans (Elder gods).

Yes, Uranus (Ouranos) was murdered and castrated by his Kronos and his brothers with a sickle. When in the sea, Uranus seeked revenge.

Kronos, fearing that the same thing would one day happen to him, he literally ate 5 of his own chidren as soon as they were born.

Yet, their sixth son, Zeus (Jupiter), was born in secrecy by Kronos' wife, Rhea.

Once Zeus had grown up, he used a poison given to him by Gaia on Kronos which made his digestive system run in reverse, thus bring his 5 brothers back to life.

Once his brothers were back, they along with the Gigantes, the Hecatonchires, and the Cyclopes became the Olympians (Younger Gods) fort to overthrow the Titans.

All of the Titans except those who did not fight against Zeus were imprisoned for eternity in Tartarus which is said to be below the heavens, below the Earth, and below the underworld.

Gaia tried to avenge the Titans by unleashing the monster, Typhoon. However, it was slain by Zeus in what is said to be the inspiration od the Saint George and the Dragon story.


Furthermore didn't all people in Greek mythology go to Hades, not as punishment but simply what happened when people died?

No, Plato wrote in the Gorgias that souls were judged after death and those who recieved punishment were sent to Tartarus. Hesoid asserts that a bronze anvil falling from the Heavens to the Earth would take 9 days to reach the surface, yet it would take 9 more days for the anvil to reach Tartarus.

I'm assuming the heaven in their religion was virtually the same as in Christianity and that Christianity just copied them.

[Paul]

No, Plato wrote in the Gorgias that souls were judged after death and those who recieved punishment were sent to Tartarus. Hesoid asserts that a bronze anvil falling from the Heavens to the Earth would take 9 days to reach the surface, yet it would take 9 more days for the anvil to reach Tartarus.

Hades/underworld is where all the souls went - the heavens just meant the sky.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hades#Orpheus_and_Eurydice

I'm assuming the heaven in their religion was virtually the same as in Christianity and that Christianity just copied them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hades#Hades_in_Christianity

[Hamsterwaffle]

All of the Titans except those who did not fight against Zeus were imprisoned for eternity in Tartarus which is said to be below the heavens, below the Earth, and below the underworld.

While Prometheus, who did fight on Zues' side, was punished for taking the fire of olympus to the mortals. The punishment I believe was to have his organs eaten by an eagle, before healing and repeating the next day.

[Conzales]

You go to hell.

Hell is simply a locked windowless hotel room with the other occupant being the most annoying person you can think of. To make matters worse the trouser press doesn't work and the room service food is lousy and takes literally a million years.


Nah, I have no idea what happens. I just think eternal life could get boring after a while. Although Assuming an immortal soul, if there is an infinite time length and infinite opportunities then perhaps you wouldn't get bored, after all, old people aren't bored yet from going on holiday, eating food and watching tv.

[Darryl'Libertarian'Jones]

I just thought of another idea - what if this is the afterlife?

It would explain a lot - I mean, could this Satan fellow really **** up a world better than we humans could?

[Daniel Frost]

You got to Hel (one l) if you die peacefully, Valhalla if you die in an awesome manner.

[LordAnubis]

I should probably know what happens really, being Anubis and all :p

[shadowbat]

i believe you reincanrate as a random species. Notihng can detemrine it. I may be atheist but i dont, nay cannot, believe in notihngness after death.

[morton700]

i believe you reincanrate as a random species. Notihng can detemrine it. I may be atheist but i dont, nay cannot, believe in notihngness after death.

You desribed yourself as a militant atheist in another thread but surely by believing in an afterlife, that isn't the case as that would suggest that there is a purpose to life???

[joanne.b.]

You desribed yourself as a militant atheist in another thread but surely by believing in an afterlife, that isn't the case as that would suggest that there is a purpose to life???

There is a great essay (http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml9012.htm) on this at positiveatheism.com. He believes there can't be an afterlife due to the biological break down of 'self' and conscious.

[Joe Smyth]

You desribed yourself as a militant atheist in another thread but surely by believing in an afterlife, that isn't the case as that would suggest that there is a purpose to life???

Would it though? Because if you are simply brought back again and again and again, with no reason why, does that not make it pointless in a way? Thus, life has no purpose.

No one knows for sure what happens after death, while some/most athiests agree that there is nothing, I like to encourage that stream of thought and tell them that they turn into worm **** in a matter of years, while I will go to heaven, more likely hell as I'm only human.

[morton700]

Would it though? Because if you are simply brought back again and again and again, with no reason why, does that not make it pointless in a way? Thus, life has no purpose.

No one knows for sure what happens after death, while some/most athiests agree that there is nothing, I like to encourage that stream of thought and tell them that they turn into worm **** in a matter of years, while I will go to heaven, more likely hell as I'm only human.

Maybe so, but by being on Earth in the first place, there is surely a purpose to life, therefore contradicting what most atheists say. In my opinion life on Earth is preparation for heaven or hell ...

[jamiemac2005]

Personally, i haven't a clue, but i see it as a win/win situation, because if there's an afterlife then; wahey there's something after all this... and if not then; what does it matter? no-one will care...

I don't know if i believe after death is like an eternal thing, i like the re-incarnation idea because it isn't just life-the rest of eternity in one state...

I love Etgar Keret's views on the afterlife, or at least the ones he publishes... There's a heaven/hell, heaven is heaven, and in hell there's tv's of what people are doing in heaven... People who commit suicide are sent to a sort of limbo/void where things are slightly worse than life. The way it relates to us and the media now is brilliance in itself, but i can't do it justice (you'd have to read his junk to get it)...

I'd like there to be an afterlife, in whatever form, because i don't understand how this could just end.

Apart from that, who knows, if we did life would be a little more boring, could possibly be shorter.

[Joe Smyth]

I agree there, things can't just end. Our minds at leaat. I reckon, even without heaven or hell, we would still be able to think. But I suppose all of this is something that no-one has figured out and probably will, so to worry about it so soon in our lives doesn't really say a lot about us does it? I reckon we shouldn't worry until the time comes, and when we do have to die, embrace it, we'll more tan likely go to a better place. Lets be honest here, anywhere in the universe would be better than a world hit by recession, am I right?

[Daniel Frost]

Was that sarcasm?

[jamiemac2005]

Lol sarcasm or not i agree with the statement in both ways. Our world as a whole is one full of shizz, some of it is good and makes life better but most people have their problems to speak of. And again i agree with not worrying until something does happen.

[Mockler]

Aha! A thread full of heretics spouting their blasphemous lies!!!

Want to know the truth??? FIND YOUR SALVATION:

http://www.ukypforums.org.uk/group.php?groupid=92

[jake.B]

Wow :rolleyes: :D

I think you go to heaven or hell or purgatory.

[Red-Fred]

I think you go to heaven or hell or purgatory.

Why? I'm only asking because I know you're one of the most devout Christians on here and I'd like to know your reasoning for believing it.

[Hamsterwaffle]

Why?
Why not?
(fillerific)

[AKU//]

I think its curtains-everything goes black and the little electronic sensory impulses that were you just stop flickering and sparking.

All the more reason to lead a good and productive life I think. You only live on through what you create and the people whose lives you touched.

[Daniel Frost]

And also, the more good and productive you're the more chance you will gain access to the required robotics and biological enhancements that would allow you to cease to age.

[yramselbats]

I'm Chrisitan, I belive in a life after death, I believe in Heaven, Hell and Purgatory.

I simply refuse to belive that there can be nothing after death, it is incomprehensable to my brain :) And because I believe in God I picked up a good point from my re teacher, why would God create something just to destroy it a few years down the line? It would make no sense.

Of course that argument holds no meaning if you don't believe in a God.

[Joe Smyth]

That's a fair point, a pretty good one actually. Depending on your on faith, or lack there of for some people, you just go to different versions of heaen and hell, although they are all the same in purpose.

reminds me of that joke. "A Christian dies and goes to heaven. Upon arrival at the gates of heaven, St Peter allows him to enter saying to be quiet while passing room 2. The Christain asks why, and St Peter says "that's where the Hebrews are, they think think they are the only ones here."

Not the greatest I know, forgot most of it you see.

[Generation Zero]

You wake up in the Matrix...

No, my rational mind is telling me that absolutely nothing happens, though I do sort of believe in the supernatural, there's just too much we don't know. I resent either science, or religion trying to tell me the way things are, and that's why I don't even impose a self-conceived belief system on myself

[Jamest]

Live a happy life.

If there is an afterlife.....yay!

And if there isnt it won't matter because you will be dead you cannot think while you are dead.

[Joe Smyth]

How do you know?