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a girl at my college is using a pregnancy as a contraception she's getting pregnant then aborting it ...what do you think of this? how can we stop this?
Gotlieb Alexander
10-16-2008, 18:04
cripes, that's odd. It makes me wonder, why? surely this is far less convenient for her than using contraceptives. Maybe someone should just drum that into her thick skull?
cripes, that's odd. It makes me wonder, why? surely this is far less convenient for her than using contraceptives. Maybe someone should just drum that into her thick skull?
i was thinking the same thing!! all her friends are at it like rabbits but at least they have the sense to use protection.. one even offered to go to brook with her to get stuff ..... her lame excuse was her bf wont wear a condom ... :confused:
Austin Sheridan
10-16-2008, 18:09
a girl at my college is using a pregnancy as a contraception she's getting pregnant then aborting it ...what do you think of this? how can we stop this?
There's nothing we can really do to stop this kind of thing. She just sounds like a stupid girl to me. I fell sorry for the unborn child.
There's nothing we can really do to stop this kind of thing. She just sounds like a stupid girl to me. I fell sorry for the unborn child.
the unborn child got flushed down the toilet...
Gotlieb Alexander
10-16-2008, 18:12
i was thinking the same thing!! all her friends are at it like rabbits but at least they have the sense to use protection.. one even offered to go to brook with her to get stuff ..... her lame excuse was her bf wont wear a condom ... :confused:
she clearly doesn't have the faintest idea of the range of contraception available. Oh well, at least she's not having kids
That is just vile. I don't approve of promiscuity or contraception but abortion seems to me to be the worst form of contraception. Firstly, there are the emotional, hormonal, physical etc. changes she'll undergo, then there's the potential mental/physical harm from the abortion itself and then there's the fact that it's only a temporary measure, not one which will last for as long as she "needs" to go without children.
the unborn child got flushed down the toilet...
Which is why we feel sorry for it.
Which is why we feel sorry for it.
why? it doesnt have a brain yet its not like it felt anything? it's a bunch of cells...
Austin Sheridan
10-16-2008, 18:29
why? it doesnt have a brain yet its not like it felt anything? it's a bunch of cells...
But it's still life. I think that you should not get rid of your baby unless it is under certain surcamstances
e.g
Rape
But it's still life. I think that you should not get rid of your baby unless it is under certain surcamstances
e.g
Rape
what kind of life would a child have being unwanted?
its cells life yes but cells is all it is! its a baby once its left the womb.
no we shouldnt have abortions we should be smart enough to use protection, but people arnt... id rather the bunch of cells be aborted than grow up suffering.
Austin Sheridan
10-16-2008, 18:36
what kind of life would a child have being unwanted?
its cells life yes but cells is all it is! its a baby once its left the womb.
no we shouldnt have abortions we should be smart enough to use protection, but people arnt... id rather the bunch of cells be aborted than grow up suffering.
If you are having sex without using contraception then it's your own fault. Why should the child be denied life if you knew that there was a chance that you could get pregnant?
Marcus89
10-16-2008, 19:04
OK, bitch slap her up and down the college a few times, and for good measure bitch slap him a few times. That is the most lame excuse I've ever heard, doesn't want to wear a condom...if thats the case, tell her to cart him. Apart from it being stupid, it's also dangerous if one of em where to catch a STD.
No guy likes wearing a condom, yet you wear one for three simple reasons 1) 98% chance of no pregnancy
2) 98% chance of no STD
3) Respect! it shows your not a ****, and you respect the girl your having sex with, by making sure its safe, and no unwanted pregnancies or STDs occur!
Maria, though I've not met any of your friends yet, from what you've told me about them, they seem really cool, down to earth and nice people. This girl though, needs a reality check, and her boyfriend needs a slap.
Austin Sheridan
10-16-2008, 19:08
OK, bitch slap her up and down the college a few times, and for good measure bitch slap him a few times. That is the most lame excuse I've ever heard, doesn't want to wear a condom...if thats the case, tell her to cart him. Apart from it being stupid, it's also dangerous if one of em where to catch a STD.
No guy likes wearing a condom, yet you wear one for three simple reasons 1) 98% chance of no pregnancy
2) 98% chance of no STD
3) Respect! it shows your not a ****, and you respect the girl your having sex with, by making sure its safe, and no unwanted pregnancies or STDs occur!
Maria, though I've not met any of your friends yet, from what you've told me about them, they seem really cool, down to earth and nice people. This girl though, needs a reality check, and her boyfriend needs a slap.
Not sure about the slaping thing but I agree with you.
Marcus89
10-16-2008, 19:18
Not sure about the slaping thing but I agree with you.
Well for her boyfriend I was say punch, buts more violent lol. Anyways the slaps aren't necessairy, but they really need to sort themselves out and start using protection or she needs to find a better guy.
Austin Sheridan
10-16-2008, 19:25
Well for her boyfriend I was say punch, buts more violent lol. Anyways the slaps aren't necessairy, but they really need to sort themselves out and start using protection or she needs to find a better guy.
I agree but it is just as much her fault as it is his.
Marcus89
10-16-2008, 19:41
I agree but it is just as much her fault as it is his.
That depends. He doesn't want to wear one. Thats his fault. If she's being ignorant to the risks of no contraception, then it is also her fault. However, if she's going along with it, for the sake of the relationship or through fear of some form of backlash then it's hardly her fault. If the latter is the case she needs to talk to him or cart him off in all honesty.
why? it doesnt have a brain yet its not like it felt anything? it's a bunch of cells...
Actually, the foetus is a sentient being (first brain waves or somesuch) from around 52/54 days, if memory serves...
EmmaGallen
10-16-2008, 21:14
If you are having sex without using contraception then it's your own fault. Why should the child be denied life if you knew that there was a chance that you could get pregnant?
If you are having unprotected sex constantly are you the type of person who should be allowed to care for a child?
Hamsterwaffle
10-16-2008, 21:22
If you are having unprotected sex constantly are you the type of person who should be allowed to care for a child?
Well unfortunately we can't exactly sterilise all of these unsuitable people. Not unless John Ward is PM anyway.
Until then we just have to make do with looking in disgust at Chavs pushing a pram with one hand and holding a cigarette in the other.
Gotlieb Alexander
10-16-2008, 21:23
However, if she's going along with it, for the sake of the relationship or through fear of some form of backlash then it's hardly her fault.
Having a boyfriend who won't use a condom doesn't stop her from using something else
Marcus89
10-16-2008, 21:29
Having a boyfriend who won't use a condom doesn't stop her from using something else
Clearly not, but its obvious she's ignorant to other forms of contraception, such as a coil, the pill or implants etc.
Gotlieb Alexander
10-16-2008, 21:37
Clearly not, but its obvious she's ignorant to other forms of contraception, such as a coil, the pill or implants etc.
Someone that ignorant can hardly claim it's not their fault they kept getting pregnant
ok first thing is first lets get this very clear! SHE IS NOT MY FRIEND!!! she's a friend of a friend! and if one of my friends wouldnt do that they are too scared of me they know they will die by lecture!!!!! or i might hurt them or shout very veyr loudly and screw up my face so i look like this :mad:
and yes marcus my friends are fabuloose! and i told her to go to brook but she's thick prat who cant keep her legs closed.
anyways i think its best she doesnt have a child although she does need to go on the pill or something!
Marcus89
10-16-2008, 21:56
Someone that ignorant can hardly claim it's not their fault they kept getting pregnant
Look, the girl must be 17, no older. Her boyfriend looks to be alot more experianced than she is, and has probably convinced her that condoms aren't needed, and if she gets pregnant she can easily have an abortion.
That, or he's taking an advantage over her, and she doesn't use protection because he doesn't like it, and she doesn't want things going pear shaped.
Either that or she doesn't actually care about getting pregnant and aborting. Inwhich case, she's just as at fault as he is.
Marcus89
10-16-2008, 21:58
ok first thing is first lets get this very clear! SHE IS NOT MY FRIEND!!! she's a friend of a friend! and if one of my friends wouldnt do that they are too scared of me they know they will die by lecture!!!!! or i might hurt them or shout very veyr loudly and screw up my face so i look like this :mad:
and yes marcus my friends are fabuloose! and i told her to go to brook but she's thick prat who cant keep her legs closed.
anyways i think its best she doesnt have a child although she does need to go on the pill or something!
Well thats sums it up..
adamlonsdale
10-17-2008, 13:08
At least STIs were mentioned. In my area, 1 in 6 girls, and 1 in 8 guys have chlamydia... then theres gohnorreah, syphilis, hep A, B, C, pubic lice and the rest... i wonder what the ratios are of people with an STI?
Gotlieb Alexander
10-17-2008, 13:35
At least STIs were mentioned. In my area, 1 in 6 girls, and 1 in 8 guys have chlamydia... then theres gohnorreah, syphilis, hep A, B, C, pubic lice and the rest... i wonder what the ratios are of people with an STI?
You should remember that there is a correlate between them, so those with chlamydia are more likely to have the others than someone without.
Gotlieb Alexander
10-17-2008, 13:49
Also Adam, how can the ratios be different for girls and boys, it doesn't make sense
adamlonsdale
10-17-2008, 14:31
I guess some people can be carriers? I'm not sure. That's a statistic from CASPHER though
Chlamydia
Awareness and
Screening
Programme in
Hull and the
East
Rriding
I guess some people can be carriers? I'm not sure. That's a statistic from CASPHER though
Chlamydia
Awareness and
Screening
Programme in
Hull and the
East
Riding
Maybe there are some skanky boy/girls who give it to more than just one person?
Austin Sheridan
10-17-2008, 18:52
Maybe there are some skanky boy/girls who give it to more than just one person?
That's true. Not all people do something about it when they have it.
Gotlieb Alexander
10-17-2008, 19:27
Also Adam, how can the ratios be different for girls and boys, it doesn't make sense
Having been working on the maths of this for a while, I can conclude that men and women in Hull have very different sexual practices from each other.
I believe that a lot of the sex that goes on in the area is concentrated amongst a minority of boys, whereas the girls are each getting a similar amount. That is the only reason I can think of.
EmmaGallen
10-19-2008, 18:28
If that girl did go on the pill surely it'd be of no real use anyway if she's the stereotype I'm imagining?
laura-hanna
10-20-2008, 13:20
The trouble is that with abortions when she wants children later in life htere is a likelyhood that she won't be able to concieve when she wants children of her own. She should keep the child. Pregancy is not a contreception and should never been used as such. A life should never be taken lightly
make.me.smile
10-20-2008, 16:14
Keep the child? Are you joking?
Marcus89
10-20-2008, 16:18
Keep the child? Are you joking?
Got a good point. Keeping a child at that age would be damaging. She shouldn't be aborting as she does, but keeping the child won't help.
make.me.smile
10-20-2008, 16:19
Exactly .
Got a good point. Keeping a child at that age would be damaging. She shouldn't be aborting as she does, but keeping the child won't help.
It depends on the situation - although frankly if she isn't going to be using contraception she should be abstaining from sex.
Spirited discussion
10-20-2008, 17:34
Having been working on the maths of this for a while, I can conclude that men and women in Hull have very different sexual practices from each other.
I believe that a lot of the sex that goes on in the area is concentrated amongst a minority of boys, whereas the girls are each getting a similar amount. That is the only reason I can think of.
Not necisarialy.
Boys are much less susceptible to contracting STI's than girls, for the simple reason that during unprotected sex a lot of semen enters the girl and thus has a chance to infect her wearas there is a lot less fluid going the other way.
Basically a guy with the disease is much more likely to pass it on to a clean girl than an infected girl pass it onto a clean guy.
Conversly lesbians are pretty safe due to very low levels of fluid transfer and gays very much at risk as the bum is coarse and so more likely to rip condoms and casue bleeding in both the bum and penis, causing direct blood-to-blood transfer (the most dangerous) plus high levels of toxins in excrement can damage immune systems in the local area so any infection is not dealt with quickly.
Of course it could simply be that there are several man-whores in hull with the disease and plently of girls willing to spread for them.
Gotlieb Alexander
10-20-2008, 17:42
Not necisarialy.
Boys are much less susceptible to contracting STI's than girls, for the simple reason that during unprotected sex a lot of semen enters the girl and thus has a chance to infect her wearas there is a lot less fluid going the other way.
Basically a guy with the disease is much more likely to pass it on to a clean girl than an infected girl pass it onto a clean guy.
That should still lead to there being equal numbers of girls and boys with chlamydia.
laura-hanna
10-21-2008, 08:04
Being gay/lesbian probably is the best contraception
Spirited discussion
10-21-2008, 17:07
That should still lead to there being equal numbers of girls and boys with chlamydia.
Yeah it would, if girls are more susceptible then unless all are in relationships more of them would catch it.
Gotlieb Alexander
10-21-2008, 17:14
Yeah it would, if girls are more susceptible then unless all are in relationships more of them would catch it.
And if more girls had it then the increase in chances a girl is infected compared to the chances of a boy being infected would then balance this out.
Austin Sheridan
10-21-2008, 19:25
Being gay/lesbian probably is the best contraception
Being gay/lesbian doesn't stop you getting STI's.
Also if we were all gay/lesbian the human race would die.
Being gay/lesbian doesn't stop you getting STI's.
Also if we were all gay/lesbian the human race would die.
But it is the best form of contraception - because it's entire purpose acts against conception ... contraception means "against conception" not "against negative effects of sexual intercourse".
Also if we were all gay/lesbian the human race would die.
Ever heard of artificial insemination? or IVF? or even, sex for survival ... ie the lesbians and the gays have sex with each other to create the next generation.
HaroonMohamoud
11-15-2008, 10:22
Amazing ... yet wierd theology?!
The killing of children is unacceptable @ 24 weeks the child is known to be a living being... yet that is the limit of months of abortion in the British nation!
:)
Marcus89
11-20-2008, 11:19
Amazing ... yet wierd theology?!
The killing of children is unacceptable @ 24 weeks the child is known to be a living being... yet that is the limit of months of abortion in the British nation!
:)
The reason it extends to 24 weeks is in the event that the baby and/or mother suffers late complications and abortion is the only solution.
The reason it extends to 24 weeks is in the event that the baby and/or mother suffers late complications and abortion is the only solution.
Up to 24 weeks is for "social abortions", medical abortions can continue up until birth. (eg if the baby has a cleft palate or the mother has cancer and must have radiotherapy immediately)
Marcus89
11-20-2008, 12:46
Up to 24 weeks is for "social abortions", medical abortions can continue up until birth. (eg if the baby has a cleft palate or the mother has cancer and must have radiotherapy immediately)
Actually the both are interwinded. Most 'social' abortions take place before 24 weeks, and its normally (but not always) medical reasons for late abortions.
Actually the both are interwinded. Most 'social' abortions take place before 24 weeks, and its normally (but not always) medical reasons for late abortions.
Well to be fair the doctors can call anything a medical abortion - because being pregnant is riskier than not being pregnant so it is always medically justifiable.
Rebecca Adams
12-10-2008, 15:20
No way! I am disgusted at that!
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